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Dr Rob Brander had been studying beaches in his native home of Canada for decades.
Then, he came to Australia, and his mind was blown by the fun of swimming in the surf.
His mind was also blown when he learned about the danger of rips. But he realised he had the knowledge to help others.
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Dr Rob Brander, coastal scientist at the University of New South Wales, author of Dr Rip's Essential Beach Book: Everything You Need to Know About Surf, Sand, and Rips
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